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]]> By: Steve http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5543 Steve Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:13:19 +0000 http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5543 Yes, while the "Baptist trick" is played out in many situations (I was conned once by Chad's Baptist trick), there are times when it is entirely appropriate to ask people to take a stand for the gospel. I have presented the gospel in class groups of 15 ro so in a very rough Western suburbs High school using the 2 ways to live presentation. I have then said to the kids (15 year old boys), "Becoming a christian will cost you. If you become a christian you'll get bulied. If you become a christian you'll get mocked. In a couple of minutes I am going to ask some of you to do the hardest thing of your life. You're mates may hate you. Your parents may reject you. I'm going to ask you, if you are sincere about trusting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, to own Him as that Saviour in front of your classmates. I am going to pray a prayer. if you sincerely pray this pray, then after you have prayed it, I am going to ask you to stand up in front of your classmates here and publicly own the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour. This will be the hardest thing you have ever done! But if you are sincere, then just do it!" I have then lead them in rpayer, and many have afterward stood indicating that they had received Christ, and they would own Him no matter what the cost may be. There were people of many and various religious, secular and atheistic beliefs in those classrooms..... but they still owned the Lord Jesus Christ as their own. I gues that may be a different spin on the altar call. Not a call to salvation, but a call that because of salvation they'll own the Lord Jesus Christ publicly. Steve Yes, while the “Baptist trick” is played out in many situations (I was conned once by Chad’s Baptist trick), there are times when it is entirely appropriate to ask people to take a stand for the gospel.
I have presented the gospel in class groups of 15 ro so in a very rough Western suburbs High school using the 2 ways to live presentation.
I have then said to the kids (15 year old boys),
“Becoming a christian will cost you. If you become a christian you’ll get bulied. If you become a christian you’ll get mocked. In a couple of minutes I am going to ask some of you to do the hardest thing of your life. You’re mates may hate you. Your parents may reject you. I’m going to ask you, if you are sincere about trusting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour, to own Him as that Saviour in front of your classmates.
I am going to pray a prayer. if you sincerely pray this pray, then after you have prayed it, I am going to ask you to stand up in front of your classmates here and publicly own the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour.
This will be the hardest thing you have ever done! But if you are sincere, then just do it!”
I have then lead them in rpayer, and many have afterward stood indicating that they had received Christ, and they would own Him no matter what the cost may be.
There were people of many and various religious, secular and atheistic beliefs in those classrooms….. but they still owned the Lord Jesus Christ as their own.
I gues that may be a different spin on the altar call. Not a call to salvation, but a call that because of salvation they’ll own the Lord Jesus Christ publicly.
Steve

]]> By: chadwick http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5537 chadwick Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:23:41 +0000 http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5537 There was an "evangelical" crusade in our county, last week with "200" "first-time decisions" . . . yet, in all reality, a great majority will never be seen. The altar call is unbiblical and not scriptural. In acts 3, if we study the Greek, Peter really used the close your eyes/no one looking but me hat-trick! :) "OK, everyone's eyes closed, no one looking but me. If you want to go to heaven, open your eyes and look at me. OK, all that looked at me, I am not going to embarrass you . . . but the Lord said, if you deny me before men, I will deny you. Therefore, you need to come down to the ALTAR and see me. OK now repeat after me . . . " In Acts 3, Peter told those seekers to REPENT . . . not say the sinner's prayer. A useful booklet I have found is: The Dangers of the Invitation System. chadwick There was an “evangelical” crusade in our county, last week with “200″ “first-time decisions” . . . yet, in all reality, a great majority will never be seen. The altar call is unbiblical and not scriptural. In acts 3, if we study the Greek, Peter really used the close your eyes/no one looking but me hat-trick! :)
“OK, everyone’s eyes closed, no one looking but me. If you want to go to heaven, open your eyes and look at me. OK, all that looked at me, I am not going to embarrass you . . . but the Lord said, if you deny me before men, I will deny you. Therefore, you need to come down to the ALTAR and see me. OK now repeat after me . . . ”

In Acts 3, Peter told those seekers to REPENT . . . not say the sinner’s prayer.

A useful booklet I have found is: The Dangers of the Invitation System.

chadwick

]]> By: SelahV http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5477 SelahV Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:36:33 +0000 http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5477 when you get back, bro. could you post the wording from your response card for us? thanks. selahV when you get back, bro. could you post the wording from your response card for us? thanks. selahV

]]> By: SelahV http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5475 SelahV Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:29:01 +0000 http://geoffbaggett.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/altar-call-confusion-20/#comment-5475 Geoff: I know you're going fishing and will be thinking and praying. While you are gone, think on this: Of all the people that walk the aisles of churches, some never come back, some come for a while and then come back much later in life, and others stay and grow and grow and grow. All three groups walked the same aisle. Some grow--what if they had never walked the aisle? selahV Geoff: I know you’re going fishing and will be thinking and praying. While you are gone, think on this:
Of all the people that walk the aisles of churches, some never come back, some come for a while and then come back much later in life, and others stay and grow and grow and grow.

All three groups walked the same aisle. Some grow–what if they had never walked the aisle? selahV

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